A recent question on the Talkstats forum asked about dropping the intercept in a linear regression model, since it makes the predictor’s coefficient stronger and more significant. Dropping the intercept in a regression model forces the regression line to go through the origin–the y intercept must be 0.

The problem with dropping the intercept is if the slope is steeper *just* because you’re forcing the line through the origin, not because it fits the data better. If the intercept really should be something else, you’re creating that steepness artificially. A more significant model isn’t better if it’s inaccurate.

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Has anyone derived the Deming regression with zero intercept (i.e., y=mx)?

Hi there, I am using regression in my final year project. I use it to predict energy consumption. let’s say that I have data from 1982 – 2006. I use data from 1982 to 1992 to find the coefficients and apply the obtained coefficients to data from 1993 to 2006. So it is like that I live in 1992 and try to predict 1993 until 2006 based on data from 1982 – 1992.

The model itself is an ARX with 2 exogenous variables. When I use intercept, the model is less robust than without intercept. Meaning that, if I reduce the number of data (maybe from 1986 – 1992) the error of 1993 – 2006 with intercept becomes larger than without intercept.

Any reference than I should read? Thank you.

Iwan–I can’t think of a good reference, other than a good regression book. My favorite is Neter, Kutner, et al.

It could all depend very well on how much data you have (one data point per year, or thousands?), how linear it is, and how close the intercept actually is to 0.

Thanks for making this available!

Mark-the F test that Andy is referring to is a test to compare the two models. It is NOT the same F test that will appear on either output.

The idea is that because the no-intercept model is nested within the full model (nested b/c it contains only a subset of the parameters), you can test the fit of the model with an F test.

To do so, this is the formula:

F = [[SSE(R) – SSE(F)]/[df(R)-df(F)]/[SSE(F)/df(F)]

Where (R) refers to values from the reduced model (with fewer parameters) and (F) refers to values from the full model

citation: p. 80 of Neter, Kutner, Nachtsheim, & Wasserman’s Applied Linear Regression Models, 3rd Ed.

It’s not as ugly as it seems if you write it out on paper.

I am using LINEST in microsoft excel to do multiple independent variable regression analysis. I got the rational about why forcing the y-int to zero matches the data better, but when I do regression with the y-int my r^2 value is .99 but when running the equation the values are not matching within a decent standard deviation. This program returns an F value, how can I use this to give me input on my data sets strength?

Yes, exactly. My suggestion was to compare the fit of the two models. As you point out, since the models are nested, this is easily done with an F test.

Karen

Hmmm…

I’d want to see what happens when you compare the two nested models. Is the F significant?

Making the slope estimate steeper wouldn’t be enough to make it a better fit as the residuals could well grow.

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