In your statistics class, your professor made a big deal about unequal sample sizes in one-way Analysis of Variance (ANOVA) for two reasons.

1. Because she was making you calculate everything by hand. Sums of squares require a different formula if sample sizes are unequal, but SPSS (and other statistical software) will automatically use the right formula.

2. Nice properties in ANOVA such as the Grand Mean being the intercept in an effect-coded regression model don’t hold when data are unbalanced. Instead of the grand mean, you need to use a weighted mean. That’s not a big deal if you’re aware of it.

The only practical issue in one-way ANOVA is that very unequal sample sizes can affect the homogeneity of variance assumption. ANOVA is considered robust to moderate departures from this assumption, but the departure needs to stay smaller when the sample sizes are very different. According to Keppel (1993), there isn’t a good rule of thumb for the point at which unequal sample sizes make heterogeneity of variance a problem.

Real issues with unequal sample sizes do occur in factorial ANOVA, if the sample sizes are confounded in the two (or more) factors. For example, in a two-way ANOVA, let’s say that your two independent variables (factors) are age (young vs. old) and marital status (married vs. not). If there are twice as many young people as old and the young group has a much larger percentage of singles than the older group, the effect of marital status cannot be distinguished from the effect of age.

Power is based on the smallest sample size, so while it doesn’t hurt power to have more observations in the larger group, it doesn’t help either.

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Hi I was wondering what the full reference is for Keppel (1993). I’m interested in looking at that paper. Thanks

Hi Olivia,

It’s a book, not a paper. “Design and Analysis: A Researcher’s Handbook.”

Hi Karen,

I’m doing an analysis on mechanical properties with one factor. I have 3 groups, group 1 (n=5), group 2 (n=9) and group 3 (n=8). I have read the comment people asked and the replied you have given. So am I right to say that for one way ANOVA, is alright to analysis different sample size per group.

Yes.

Hi, I found your website very helpful and have a few of questions:

1) I have data of a entire population and am comparing the means of three groups. Do I still need to do significance testing since this isn’t really sampling?

2) The 3 groups have very different size (1200, 12000, 40000). I found the data not normal, so can I just use Kruskall-Wallis test?

3) I understand ANOVA is popular but I never found any data set that is normal. i.e. shapiro wilks test or kolmogrv test always have sig. <0 so I kept on using Kruskall walli test. Is that ok?

Many thanks!

Hi Karen,

I am working with a data set that has n~200, n~13, n~20. I would like to do an ANOVA but I am not sure how to approach this. What was the sample 20/200 you mentioned? Would a weighted mean account for these differences? The number of samples is also related to the number of interesting components for that group (not due to poor sampling).

Dear Karen

Thanks for the information that you provided here. I have the same issue. I have a caregiver group of 96 and 42 control participants that I compare them on one variables. I checked for the variance and there were no significant differences in the variance. so I guess that refer to that. However, do you know any published book that I can cite?

thanks

Hi,

I have data of 2 years 2004 and 2008 and I realized the sample size is not equal for both of the year how can i do data cleaning in stata in this case..

in my paper i am comparing the psychological well being of orphan and non-orphan children.sample size of n1=166,n2=333.is there a problem in computing independent t-test?

Hi Karen,

I hope you can help me. I’m trying to finish a paper for this term. I’ve just run two ANCOVAs. There were no problems with outliers, some problems with normality (skew and kurtosis <|3| although formal tests were significant), no problems with collinearity, correlation between covariates or homogeneity of slopes. Levene's test was significant for both ANCOVAS. The cell sizes and SDs are as follows:

ANCOVA with DV "A"

N=30, SD=1.31

N=78, SD=1.16

N=55, SD=.88

N=171, SD =1.21

ANCOVA with DV "B"

N=30, SD=0.91

N=78, SD=0.89

N=55, SD=.74

N=171, SD =.72

I realize that the smallest group has the highest variance in both cases. I hate to transform variables since it makes interpretation so complicated. What other options do I have?

Help!

-Kalyani

Hi Karen,

My experiment model have two factors – temperature and different time points. I performed 2-Way GLM for the unequal sample size I have. However, it seems that there is no effect from the interaction of two factors and the temperature itself. My question is that will the result of comparison between two temp at different time points be valid if I perform them using one-way GLM after the no significant finding in the initial 2-way GLM?

Thank,

Hi Karen,

I’m looking at the spatial variation of fish parasites for my Bachelor of Science thesis. I want to compare mean parasite abundance between male (n=71) and female (n=105) fish. I log transformed the parasite data and it has a normal distribution and equal variances, I was just wondering if I can use a One-way ANOVA to compare the mean abundance between sexes or would it be safer to just apply a non parametric Mann-Whitney U or Kruskal Wallis Test. Hope to hear from you.

Hi, I’m doing study for me Bachelor of Science thesis too. Currently, I’m having problem with data analysis. My experiment design is 3×3 factorial design which consists of two independent variables (frying temperature and frying duration). However, for the duration factor is abit special which it has different duration). The setting is fried at 140C for 4, 5, 6 minutes while 160 and 180C fried for 1,2 and 3mins). Shall I use one way ANOVA or two way to analyse the effect on my sample?

thanks

Hello Sir,

Sir in my research study, i had done work in three groups Group A( n=50), Group B( n=50) and Group C(n=25), i have used one way anova. is there any problem for selection of uneven sample size of Group C or it may affect statistical analysis. Please sir advice mee.

Thanking u

Hi Karen,

I have a question related to unequal sample sizes. I have a 2 (language background first language speaker (L1)/second language (L2) speaker) x3 (visual status: early blind/late blind/sighted) design. I investigate whether it is an advantage to have become blind as a child when it comes to second language acquisition.

In total I have N80: 40 L1 speakers and 40 L2 speakers (equal sizes), and each of these two groups have 11 early blind, 9 late blind and 20 sighted participants. Are these unequal sample sizes related to visual status a problem when using a 2×3 Anova? What do you suggest?

Many many thanks!

Helena

what is the formula to attain a sample size for the comparism of means of unequal groups?

i am doing a study on the prevalence and patterns of urinary tract infection amongst pregnant women attending a particular hospital in my country, comparing them to the non pregnant controls. i attained my study sample based on the prevalence. please how do i attain a formula to calculate the sample size now since i have been asked to stratify my pregnant patients into ist , 2nd and 3rd trimester?

hello,

great discussion!

I was wondering if the repeated-measures ANOVA using STATISTICA software is adjusting the sums of squares equation for unequal samples size like SPSS does?

thanks!

Hi Ioana,

I have no idea. I don’t use Statistica. Anyone else know?

Hi Karen

I need your help regarding my project . I divided the patients according to severity of disease in three groups , Group A=55, Group B=29 and Group c=30. I want to apply one-way anova but my data is not normally distributed and i need mean and standard deviation . Is it ok that if i will continue with one way anova. In my second project i have two group Group A=79 and Group B=35 and i want to apply independent t-test but again problem is that the data is not normally distributed. Please suggest me.

I will be really grateful to you

Dr.Mudassar Imran

Very educative discussions. I am working on a research, which entails 2way unequal sample size. i am wondering if the SPSS version 20 can perform such task because thats what i have on my system.

thanks as i look forward to hearing from you.

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